Published: May 23, 2007 11:59 pm
Psychics may have to pass test to practice
By Chris Cassidy
THE SALEM NEWS (SALEM, Mass.)
SALEM, Mass. — Lawyers have the bar exam. Accountants have the CPA exam.
Should Salem's fortunetellers have to pass a test of their own to prove they're psychic?
City councilors, hoping to crack down on fraudulent fortunetellers, are trying to define exactly how a psychic can become licensed to set up shop in the Witch City. They want candidates to undergo a criminal background check and to either live or run a business in Salem for at least a year.
But many psychics want the city to go a step further | make sure they're actually qualified to predict the future.
"It's become a free-for-all," said Laurie Cabot, the official witch of Salem. "Anyone who says they're psychic can come into the city. We don't even know where they come from. We don't know their qualifications."
For more than three hours this week, city councilors listened to two dozen witches and psychics | many clad in black and wearing pentacles | as they explained the tools of their trade.
"There has to be criteria or you're going to get garbage coming here," Barbara Szafranski, the owner of Angelica of the Angels, predicted. "Everybody here is a legitimate person who's worked for years and years. ... When you do a reading, you hold a person's life right in your hands. We have people come to us who are willing to commit suicide, who won't go to a psychiatrist, so they come to us."
"What are the criteria?" asked a baffled Councilor-at-large Joan Lovely. "Is there schooling?"
"No one under the age of 20 should be doing readings, because they don't have the life experience," said Szafranski, who suggested creating a committee that would screen prospective psychics.
When Cabot became the first person in Salem to be granted a fortunteller's license decades ago, she said she first had to perform a legitimate reading in front of a police officer.
"He sat down with me, I did a psychic reading, he was pleased with the reading, and I got my license," Cabot said.
'There are nuts out there'
Some city councilors seemed to agree that psychics should have to provide more than just a business plan and a crystal ball before setting up shop.
"I'm completely unqualified to be a reader, but by these criteria I could make it by the Licensing Board," Ward 2 Councilor Michael Sosnowski said.
Councilors are considering requiring pyschics to submit a five-year employment history and their educational background before their license is granted.
"Every reader in this room is legitimate," said Doug Johnson, a psychic at Pyramid Books who wants candidates to show their experience and training before becoming licensed. "But there are nuts out there | people that are not mentally there."
The city took up the issue almost a year ago, mainly to prevent fortunetellers from blatantly ripping off consumers by demanding lucrative payments in return for lifting a curse or removing a "black cloud."
One woman paid more than $2,000 for readings at a Salem shop, where she was told she had a black aura around her, according to Szafranski.
"Then one day she came into my shop crying," Szafranski told city councilors. "I said, 'You don't have a black aura. Sit down and I'll show you your aura on my machine.' And it was blue and wonderful."
City councilors modeled the regulations after those used by San Francisco, which licenses between 30 and 40 fortunetellers.
But they ran into trouble trying to define the practice of fortunetelling and opted to scrap a line referring to it as casting spells, removing curses, and administering potions to "recover property, stop bad luck, give good luck, put bad luck on a person or animal ... shorten a person's life ... make one person marry or divorce another, induce a person to make or alter a will, (or) tell where money or property is hidden."
"Fortunetelling is divination," Amy Ravish said. "It's the use of skills and tools to do psychic counseling. What you're talking about really sounds strange."
Councilors are expected to revisit the topic. Among the other issues, councilors plan to limit to 10 the number of licensed psychics that can read at psychic fairs and to allow shop owners to set up their own fairs.
"We don't portray ourselves in a horrific way," Cabot said. "We don't bilk people or try to take advantage of people. We're hard workers."
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Chris Cassidy writes for The Salem News of Salem, Mass.
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WHAT IS FORTUNETELLING?
According to a draft of the city's proposed regulations for psychics, fortunetelling would be defined as:
"the telling of fortunes, forecasting of futures, or reading the past, by means of any occult, psychic power, faculty, force, clairvoyance, cartomancy, psychometry, phrenology, spirits, tea leaves, tarot cards, scrying, coins, sticks, dice, sand, coffee grounds, crystal gazing or other such reading, or through mediumship, seership, prophecy, augury, astrology, palmistry, necromancy, mindreading, telepathy or other craft, art, science, talisman, charm, potion, magnetism, magnetized article or substance, or by any such similar thing or act."
Psychics may have to pass test to practice
By Chris Cassidy
THE SALEM NEWS (SALEM, Mass.)
SALEM, Mass. — Lawyers have the bar exam. Accountants have the CPA exam.
Should Salem's fortunetellers have to pass a test of their own to prove they're psychic?
City councilors, hoping to crack down on fraudulent fortunetellers, are trying to define exactly how a psychic can become licensed to set up shop in the Witch City. They want candidates to undergo a criminal background check and to either live or run a business in Salem for at least a year.
But many psychics want the city to go a step further | make sure they're actually qualified to predict the future.
"It's become a free-for-all," said Laurie Cabot, the official witch of Salem. "Anyone who says they're psychic can come into the city. We don't even know where they come from. We don't know their qualifications."
For more than three hours this week, city councilors listened to two dozen witches and psychics | many clad in black and wearing pentacles | as they explained the tools of their trade.
"There has to be criteria or you're going to get garbage coming here," Barbara Szafranski, the owner of Angelica of the Angels, predicted. "Everybody here is a legitimate person who's worked for years and years. ... When you do a reading, you hold a person's life right in your hands. We have people come to us who are willing to commit suicide, who won't go to a psychiatrist, so they come to us."
"What are the criteria?" asked a baffled Councilor-at-large Joan Lovely. "Is there schooling?"
"No one under the age of 20 should be doing readings, because they don't have the life experience," said Szafranski, who suggested creating a committee that would screen prospective psychics.
When Cabot became the first person in Salem to be granted a fortunteller's license decades ago, she said she first had to perform a legitimate reading in front of a police officer.
"He sat down with me, I did a psychic reading, he was pleased with the reading, and I got my license," Cabot said.
'There are nuts out there'
Some city councilors seemed to agree that psychics should have to provide more than just a business plan and a crystal ball before setting up shop.
"I'm completely unqualified to be a reader, but by these criteria I could make it by the Licensing Board," Ward 2 Councilor Michael Sosnowski said.
Councilors are considering requiring pyschics to submit a five-year employment history and their educational background before their license is granted.
"Every reader in this room is legitimate," said Doug Johnson, a psychic at Pyramid Books who wants candidates to show their experience and training before becoming licensed. "But there are nuts out there | people that are not mentally there."
The city took up the issue almost a year ago, mainly to prevent fortunetellers from blatantly ripping off consumers by demanding lucrative payments in return for lifting a curse or removing a "black cloud."
One woman paid more than $2,000 for readings at a Salem shop, where she was told she had a black aura around her, according to Szafranski.
"Then one day she came into my shop crying," Szafranski told city councilors. "I said, 'You don't have a black aura. Sit down and I'll show you your aura on my machine.' And it was blue and wonderful."
City councilors modeled the regulations after those used by San Francisco, which licenses between 30 and 40 fortunetellers.
But they ran into trouble trying to define the practice of fortunetelling and opted to scrap a line referring to it as casting spells, removing curses, and administering potions to "recover property, stop bad luck, give good luck, put bad luck on a person or animal ... shorten a person's life ... make one person marry or divorce another, induce a person to make or alter a will, (or) tell where money or property is hidden."
"Fortunetelling is divination," Amy Ravish said. "It's the use of skills and tools to do psychic counseling. What you're talking about really sounds strange."
Councilors are expected to revisit the topic. Among the other issues, councilors plan to limit to 10 the number of licensed psychics that can read at psychic fairs and to allow shop owners to set up their own fairs.
"We don't portray ourselves in a horrific way," Cabot said. "We don't bilk people or try to take advantage of people. We're hard workers."
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Chris Cassidy writes for The Salem News of Salem, Mass.
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WHAT IS FORTUNETELLING?
According to a draft of the city's proposed regulations for psychics, fortunetelling would be defined as:
"the telling of fortunes, forecasting of futures, or reading the past, by means of any occult, psychic power, faculty, force, clairvoyance, cartomancy, psychometry, phrenology, spirits, tea leaves, tarot cards, scrying, coins, sticks, dice, sand, coffee grounds, crystal gazing or other such reading, or through mediumship, seership, prophecy, augury, astrology, palmistry, necromancy, mindreading, telepathy or other craft, art, science, talisman, charm, potion, magnetism, magnetized article or substance, or by any such similar thing or act."
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Sat, June 2, 2007 - 11:14 PMAt times, I wonder if I'm legitimate myself. I have been told by psychic hotlines that I have talent. I'm therefore, not a nut. A true nut wouldn't spend time neurotically wondering about whether or not they are a nut, they wouldn't necessarily know. I think some kind of guidelines about psychics makes sense.
"Every reader in this room is legitimate," said Doug Johnson, a psychic at Pyramid Books who wants candidates to show their experience and training before becoming licensed. "But there are nuts out there | people that are not mentally there."
For this reason, I think this is a decent idea, but i don't like the way psychics are being cracked down against in Philadelphia. Frankly, I believe that psychic ability is real.
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Mon, June 4, 2007 - 3:26 PMWhat he said!
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Mon, June 4, 2007 - 5:40 PM"I believe that psychic ability is real. "
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Sun, June 10, 2007 - 1:23 AMOh yes it was, thanks for posting Amethyst.
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Sat, November 10, 2007 - 9:26 PMthe issue I see with this is the whole bit about I gave him a reading he was pleased with it I got my license and later the bit about the aura etc and it upsetting some one.. are they worried about legit people or are they more concerned that noone tell anyone things they don't want to hear.
I agree it takes maturity and tact... but I also had a good deal of that before 20 and I required no "life excperience" to know what I knew... I did however need maturity to know when not to say everything I knew. Its the hardest lesson to learn that just because you know or see something does not mean that person is supposed to confronted on it or talked to about it... unfortunatley sometimes the gift is more like a huge informtion dump where I need to then sort. This is why I will often ask people do you REALLY want to know or are you just asking to test me? Not everyone really wants to know the answer to the queston what do you see about me.
I wish everything I had to say was light and sunshine, its not often it is a mixed bag, sometimes I see what people are hiding and most afraid of, sometimes I see it will work out and other times I see it won't at least not the way they think, I have a duty not to lie or gloss over the truth though. The other thing is I have had it proven out 100% correct often enough that when I am in that moment when I see it I have no doubts... and its not taken me astray.
Now if hey wanted testimonies of sucessfull readings.. I think any one who has had the gift there whole life would have dozens to offer from before they ever tryed to set up shop. I do, and I have never done it proffesonaly nor do I care to. -
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Sun, November 11, 2007 - 1:35 PMboth in peru and in nepal shamans and curenderos have organized to maintain legitimacy... it protects them as well as protects those that would go to them for help...
most psychics are trained to manipulate people and arent psychics at all... i went to a place for a job interview as a telephone psychic once... when i did the reading for the boss guy he told me what i did wrong and then showed me how to do a reading... which was super vague and ment to make some one think that it was specificly for them... but ti was a recipe.... there are people that are so good at this sort of sugesstive manipulation that it can really appear like a real psychic... just like a good magician can make themselves look like they are levitating... but its all smoke and mirror... and the sad thing is there really are psychics and people who can do amazing things... but since the begining of time there has allways been people imitating them to get something from people...
beware false prophets....
i think its good they are doing this... but i also feel that there runs a risk of people using their own agendas to control the practice in that community which could be an issue...
i personally feel that people get known for the quality of their work... and that that should be the control system in check... its a shame that people get taken for a ride some times but i think some real wisdom can come from finding out your gullible... -
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Wed, November 21, 2007 - 7:25 PMThats the problem with this industry, no standardization or answering "body". Anyone can and has claimed anything. The public is largely niave and mis-informed.
I have noticed in Canada 2 business enterprises that claim to be an organization (an implied Association), offers lessons and gives certifications for Tarot Readers, except its a business who's intention is to earn income by providing courses to those who need them. They offer no help, provide no resourses for "professionals" or those wish to start "working" in this field. They are not open to providing employment possibilities to their students or allumni. This I know from experience.
One of them is the Canadain Tarot Network and of course, The American Tarot Association which has a different owner. They list elected "directors", but seriously, this is a business. To me their attempt reflects a lack of integrity and ads to the negative stereotype often held by those who don't know differently and or have experienced "Flakes". -
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Thu, January 17, 2008 - 10:22 AM"most psychics are trained to manipulate people and aren't psychics at all"
This is a most unreasonable & unrealistic statement. Obviously you don't have anything to do with any form of the industry.
Most of the psychics I have worked with professionally have been self taught. Many are flakey, many are fraudulent and many are real. Psychics also includes many categories like, tarot, palmistry, astrology, runes, cartonomacy, mediumship, channeling, etc. all of which are "Psychic Arts". There's also many practitioner's using psychic abilities without making the claim including various energy healers like reiki, etc. I would also put Shamanism in the category of a psychic art even though most shamans won't make that reference or claim and from the advertisements for shamans that I have seen, most would be fraudulent, but not claiming to be psychics.
My local Yellow Pages (Calgary) has about 42 listings for Psychics. A few of these listings have more than one psychic and none for Shamans. Less than half of these are fake. There are also more than a dozen who aren't in Yellows but advertise in other magazines and are solid. Having been in several industries including Life Insurance I agree the number of fakes, frauds and no-goods is much higher than any industry I know of, but the statement is still wrong and prejudicial.
When I worked for Alf Evans he had a continual staff of 15 valid psychics and none of us advertised. We each performed 20-40 readings a day with very few complaints, many call backs and requests. Turn over was high but that was mostly inexperienced psychics who couldn't take the demand or were having major life issues and/or the ridiculous office politics.
I have also had a core group of 8 psychics I have worked with for the last 8 years. Last year I employed 27 psychics for a 14 hour function for 10.5 consecutive days. There were only 3 that were questionable, 2 of which I fired. I would say those are incredible numbers for any industry. I have done this event for 8 years and served thousands of people with very few complaints of any kind and have had a very high rate of repeats and referrals. -
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Sun, January 20, 2008 - 3:20 PM"This is a most unreasonable & unrealistic statement. Obviously you don't have anything to do with any form of the industry."
yeah and thank god for that... seeing it as an industry to me is just wrong but thats my value system talking... i know others feel differently.
YEARS ago i did go to shop to apply for a job there doing readings that did psychic hot line service as well as in house readings... i did an actual reading for the guy and he then told me how to do it "right" which was just telling people what they wanted to here in a mock intuitive manipulation... so i can say im not fully ignorant of the "industry" as you so aptly called it...
"Having been in several industries including Life Insurance I agree the number of fakes, frauds and no-goods is much higher than any industry I know of, but the statement is still wrong and prejudicial."
well i said most not all... from that same place i applied at i met really talented and good people who were very psychic and gifted... they didint seem to last at that place for long.
theres a wonderful article in the news paper the other day about a seatlle woman who was conned by two old women psychics for 370,000$ one of the old women was caught in canada and is now doing time.
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Sun, January 20, 2008 - 4:46 PMSince more than one person charges money it's an industry, trade and or profession. Renumeration is not a greed based principal however greed is shown in every area of life. Since you were willing to work their and "trade" readings for money you must have placed value in the business as a whole. Once there are multiple businesses in the same trade, is that not considered an "industry"?
Like all professions there are fakes and flakes of every kind operating on every motive possible. From the dentist that drugs and fondles clients to the teacher that cheated all through University.
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Sun, January 20, 2008 - 4:57 PMi didnt work there.. i saw that it was an industry instead of a form of service and that turned me off from it completely.
i think there is a differance. it was in washington state, and i cant recall the name of the place... i worked next door to it for a while.
but your right its a industry which is why i dont much care for it. but once again thats my value system talking.
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